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Big 4 Accounting Firms: Pros and Cons
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If you are an accounting major, you probably talk a lot with your friends about working at a Big 4 accounting firm. How it’s your dream to land a job at KPMG, PwC, EY, or Deloitte. But often you may wonder if this is really the path for you. Would you be better off working at a smaller accounting firm or working as an accountant for a company right out of school? Sometimes its hard to decide. Having worked for a few years for a Big 4 firm, I thought I would lay out for you the pros and cons for working at one of these firms. Hopefully it helps you come to a decision as to what path is best for you.

Pros:

  • You work with the brightest individuals in accounting. These companies only hire the best so that means you will be working with the best. As such, you are challenged on a daily basis and learn a lot.
  • Most of the people you work with will be a similar age. This helps build team chemistry since you likely have a lot in common. You enjoy the people you see at work everyday. If you work for a company, you may not have a lot of people your age you are working with.
  • Vacation Time is Substantial. Depending on the firm you work for, you could have as much as 25 vacation days a year as soon as you start. That is unheard of in other industries.
  • Ability to lead early. After only two years as a staffer, you will find yourself leading audit or tax teams. This is valuable experience that will be hard to find elsewhere.
  • Constant Training. If you want to be a great accountant, you will need to be constantly expanding your expertise and skillset. The Big 4 firms have yearly trainings for their employees and have constant webinars to help them stay abreast of the current accounting industry.
  • Discounts. Because the Big 4 accounting firms are worldwide organizations, they have lots of partnerships with other companies. This results in lots of discounts on things like cell phone service, flowers, clothes, tickets, and more.
  • Points. If you are in consulting or are on a team that has to travel, you can rack up a lot of frequent flyer points and hotel points. Just pay with the company credit card and then use the points on your personal vacation.
  • Tickets. One of my favorite parts about being a tax consultant was that we were always receiving free tickets to local professional sporting events. Either the firm or partners have season tickets to the local teams. When they couldn’t use them, they passed them down to us.
  • Looks great on your resume. Being able to have Deloitte, PwC, KPMG, or EY on your resume is a huge boost for you for your entire accounting career. It will get your foot in the door in a lot of accounting interviews. Sometimes companies won’t even interview you unless you have Big 4 experience.
  • Participating in Big 4 recruiting. Once you start at the firm full-time, you now get to be a part of the recruiting team. It’s nice to have the roles reversed. You get to travel back to your school and other schools and enjoy the event instead of sweating it out like you did when you were in school.
  • Parties. The firms know how to throw some parties for their employees. Whether it is the end of busy season party or the Christmas party, it’s always a good time. There is usually an open bar, so things can get crazy. One year the Christmas party was held at the Ritz. Talk about nice.
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Cons

  • Long hours. This one is obvious. From January through April, you are going to be working tons of hours per week. 60 hours at the minimum up to 80 hours. Not fun. The rest of the year the hours fluctuate depending on the projects you are on. If you’re an auditor, your hours will increase during quarterly review. Tax season also picks up again in the fall. It is rare to have a consecutive stretch of 40 hours per week for more than a few weeks out of the year. If you work at a smaller firm, your hours would be less throughout the year.
  • Blackout dates. During busy season, you are not allowed to take PTO. Ski trip in February your friends are going on, forget about it. Spring break in the Caribbean with your family, no way. This can be pretty frustrating at times.
  • Rigid Promotion Structure. When you are promoted is largely tied to your years of experience. You can be promoted to senior only after you have been there two years, you can only make manager after five years, and so forth. This can be frustrating for the strong performers who could possibly be promoted earlier just based on merit. But this never happens.
  • Self Evaluations. This is more of a dislike than a con. For every project you work on for over 40 hours, you have to create a self evaluation for yourself. These are a pain in the ass and not fun to write.
  • Office politics. This one is hard to avoid in any corporate structure and the Big 4 accounting firms are no exception.
  • Hours staring at a computer screen. It is probably not healthy to be staring at a computer screen for 14 hours a day but this is what happens during busy season.
  • Your commute. This was a negative for me when I was an auditor. Rarely was my commute less than 45 minutes each way. This will wear you down when you are working past 10 pm every night during busy season. The lucky ones are those that have client close to where they live.

Overall, I believe the benefits of working at a Big 4 accounting firm far outweigh the negatives. Having a name like Deloitte, PwC, KPMG, or EY on your resume is such a boost for your career. But working at one of these companies is not for everyone. I understand that. I encourage you to look through this list and apply it to what you want for your career. See if you can add anything else to it. Accounting is a great career choice no matter what.

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Russell

About Russell


Hi, I'm Russell, author of The Big 4 Playbook and a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) in Texas.

Before writing The Big 4 Playbook, I had the privilege of working as an auditor and tax consultant for several years for a Big 4 Accounting Firm. I am one of the few CPAs to serve as both an audit senior and a tax senior for a Big 4 Firm. During my time at the Big 4, the clients I served included Fortune 500 and Fortune 1000 companies, government organizations, hedge funds, and more.

I earned my Bachelor of Science in Accounting from Boston College and my Masters in Accounting from Vanderbilt University. I experienced the rigors of the Big 4 recruiting process at both levels of my college career, and I created The Big 4 Playbook to share the lessons I learned along the way with you.
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Big 4 Accounting Firms: Pros and Cons

67 Comments

  1. Pauline

    Is it possible to get into BIG 4 just with ACCA qualification without a degree cert in UK?

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    • Mike

      I expect so. I can’t speak for the other three, but PwC take on school leavers who gain their ACCA without a degree (though they can get one in the process) I can’t see why it would be any different for experienced hires who already have ACCA but no degree.

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  2. Amjad

    am planing to get into consultency in the future, do you reckon working as an auditor in pwc as a starting job could help me get there eventually

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Yes, definitely!

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  3. Sam

    Hi, how did you study for your CPA exams while working in a big 4 firm? I’m a 4th year student right now and I just need some advice before I graduate. thanks

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Sam – First, if you have any time to take the exams before you start, I strongly suggest you do so. If you’ll be taking the exams while you work, it’s almost impossible to study from January through April since this is busy season. During the other times of the year, you’ll be able to study after you get off work and on weekends. I would also suggest taking vacation days just prior to your exams in order to really cram hard.

      I was able to complete all of my exams prior to starting at the Big 4. This was a huge help to me. But I know lots of employees who were able to pass all the exams using the above strategy. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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  4. Sam

    My original plan is to do my exams before trying to land a job in a big 4 firm aswell. I guess I’ll just go with that. Thanks for the advice!

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  5. Neal

    Here are the following questions:

    What do the big 4 mean by “points” when the Senior or the Manager writes the review? What is the maximum and minimum points? Does the points give you an idea in getting a promotion, higher salary and other things? I understand how the Senior and Manager writes the review based on your performance as your doing in the firm, but I’m not quite sure what they mean by points. Can you please explain more on that?
    How do I show my “strengths” early in order to get the hardest and most complex assignments? Based on competency and quality of work? Leadership qualities?
    Would be it a good idea to pursue CPA right after I get my bachelors in Accounting? According to the text,
    How do you bring in new clients as well as sales in order to make partner? What is the typical client portfolio size of a Big 4 partner? Can the associates build up the portfolio in their first or second year?
    Is it possible to have a partner to be my mentor in my first year? Can this be achieved?

    I am thinking of going into Tax Accounting. Is this a good field to go into and making partner much quicker than Public Accounting? What about Advisory and few others?

    Which Big 4 companies is the best company to work for?

    I look forward to hearing from you soon.

    Kindly regards,
    Neal Shah

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Neal-At the firm I worked for the points scale was 1-5. 5 being poor employee and 1 being great employee. Star employees would receive 2’s. Your ratings are factored into higher salary and promotion, although promotions is more based on time worked (ie promoted to senior after working 2 years as staff). Your mentor in year 1 will be a manager. It’s not common for staffers to interact much with partners but take advantage of team lunches with the partners in order to get to know them better.

      All 4 firms are great to work for. Tax or advisory roles are great paths to becoming a partner. Overall, you need to work at least 10+ years before becoming partner no matter which specialty you choose. Decide on your specialty based on which one you think you will enjoy more.

      Yes, definitely try and pass all the CPA exams right after your masters.

      Only partners and managers work on bringing in clients. It’s not expected as staff or senior. Hope this info helps!

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      • Miriam

        genial

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  6. Noel

    Hi Rusell, I have a Bachelors in Law degree (not from the U.S) and i am currently doing my Masters in taxation (in the U.S), is it possible for me to be hired as a tax consultant in an accounting firm without necessary having an accounting degree (although i have basic accounting knowledge from some of the classes i have taken at law school) and C.P.A or are these mandatory requirements for anyone to work at an accounting firm? Looking forward to you reply.

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Hi Noel,

      Sorry for the delay in response. Yes! You can work as a tax consultant with a law degree and masters in tax. A friend of mine works for a Big 4 firm with a law degree but no undergrad accounting degree.

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  7. Noel

    *please excuse some typos

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  8. Todd Johnson

    Check out this video and see what it is REALLY like to work for a big 4… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiHPUVPbpR0

    Reply

  9. Neal

    Thank you for responding to my questions. I have another question. If I choose to go into tax accounting, would it be possible to become a Controller or CFO of other firms if I decided to leave Big 4 after I make Senior Manager position? I heard that if people go into Tax Accounting, it would be hard to make a Controller/CFO position. They said that auditing is the way to go. Thank you for taking your time to read this message and answering it.

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  10. Neal

    Hi Russell,

    Thank you for answering my questions. I have another question. I am thinking of going into Tax Accounting, but however, I have loftier goals and aspired to be a Partner or CFO of the Fortune 500 Companies someday. I heard that Auditing is the best way to go if you want to become a Controller or CFO of a company. Is that true? Can you become a Controller or CFO of Fortune 500 Companies if you are doing Tax Accounting at Big 4 firms? Thank you for answering this message and reading it.

    Thanks,
    Neal

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Hi Neal,

      Sorry for the delay in replying to your question. Yes, from my experience in the industry, I would agree that it’s easier to become CFO via the audit track. You’re exposed to more financial areas as an auditor. Tax professionals focus solely on tax.

      With that being said, I do know of CFO’s who began their careers as tax professionals.

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  11. Madu

    Hello! I am currently aged 17 i’m planning to work in an big 4 audit firm my future ambition is to be a financial analyst by studying CFA. Is Audit path is good for my ambition ? or should i join any other finance associate related jobs? Can i apply for all accounting and finance related jobs after working in an audit firm? I want to get some solid experience will i get it in the Big4 or i should join any other firm?

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Thanks for the comment Madu. A Big 4 firm is a great start to a career in finance and accounting. If you decide to work at a Big 4, working as an auditor for financial services clients/hedge funds would be great experience. I know former colleagues who moved onto financial analyst positions with corporations, Goldman, & hedge funds. Keep an open mind though. Perhaps you may like working for financial companies right out of college instead of a Big 4 firm. This is a good career path too.

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  12. Neil

    Hello Russell,
    My son is interested in Finance and is graduating next year from high school. He prefers Finance to Accounting. His other interest is Risk Management. What type of job could he get with a Big Four firm with either a bachelors in Finance or Risk Management?

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Good question – sounds to me like he would be better suited for a consulting job with Deloitte or Bain. An analyst job with one of the big banks would work too. I don’t know any auditors or tax consultants at the Big 4 who focused only on finance in college. Finance is a great major nonetheless!

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  13. Alessandro

    Dear Russell,
    I am an italian university student, holding a Master in International Economics. During my master’s i have been studying one year in Turkey and another in China as an exchange student. Moreover in both countries I worked as an accounting intern in some companies.

    Although my majors are not accounting related, but more financial and economic in general, I would love to work and become an accounting professional. In order to get there I will study for ACCA qualification.

    I would be pleased to know if you think that one of the big4 might consider my application.

    Thank you,

    Best

    AB

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Where will you be applying for work?

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      • Alessandro

        Italy or Uk

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        • Russell

          Russell

          I think they would consider your application since you’ve interned in accounting jobs and are looking to pursue your accounting certification. I encourage you to network with Big 4 employees and learn as much as you can about the firms. Knowing the right people will go a long way in earning a job at the Big 4.

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  14. Steve

    Hey, thanks for the great info on the pros and cons on working for big 4 firms. I’m 4th year accounting. I’m working on joint degree award of both bachelor’s and master in accounting now. I’m really debating about doing internship either during spring or summer. A lot of employees from big 4 firms that I talked to recommend me doing the spring intern which gives me more experience compared to summer, but I kinda don’t want to get to stop the school year and come back for summer after spring even though I can certainly do that. Do you also recommend me doing spring intern? Also, If I do summer intern, I think might look into non-accounting intern, such as Bmw manufacturing plant intern and all different industries. You think that is better choice since it is non-busy season for accounting firm during summer and I don’t learn as much as during springs? thanks for the help.

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  15. Yogesh

    After doing CPA how difficult is to get a job in a big 4 or industry. Also what is the average starting package for fresher

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  16. Claudia

    Hi Russell,
    Thank you so much for having this blog, I really learned a lot! I will be starting my first day as an associate at PwC in early October. I was planning to take my first CPA exam in January, but I don’t think it will be a good idea due to busy season. I definitely will not have time to study, and my 18 month clock will run out fast! (At least that’s what I read in a few websites!) So what do you suggest I do? And could you give me guidance on when I should take each test while working? For example, every two months one test, 3 months one test?

    Also, could you give me some tips on how your first audit client or project will be like? My biggest fear fear is that everyone in my team will know exactly what they are doing, and I will be completely lost in the whole process. I am not afraid of asking questions and getting help, but I don’t want to ask too many questions to give off the vibe that I am not capable of the job. Could you give me some of your insight to this? Thank you.

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Hi Claudia,

      Hope you’re new job at pwc is going well. It’s def ok going in to it not to know everything. Just have a great attitude and be willing to take on anything! It’s def ok to ask questions but show your superiors that you’ve tried to come up with a solution. When I was starting, I like to bundle my questions so as to not bother my senior too often.

      As for the CPA exam, I would try and knock it out starting in May through August/Sept. This a good window where things slow down at the firms.

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  17. Vince

    Thanks for the info Russell. I had a couple questions for you. I plan on graduating with a BS in Accounting right around the age 30. My question is if this will retard my progress, or ability to get a job, being older than probably most grads. Also, I spent 4+ years working in the IT field, Intel, and have an extensive knowledge of computers. Would this help me when trying to get into one of the big 4 firms or another accounting gig?

    Thanks!

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    • Russell

      Russell

      No! This will not hurt your ability to work for the big 4. While most first yr hires are in their mid-20s, if you’re qualified, the Big 4 will hire you. Your IT background is def a plus. there’s a lot of computer system specific issues that accountants, especially auditors have to investigate.

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  18. David

    Hi Russell,
    Im studying my CTA year (fourth year in Accounting for C.A) in South africa. I believe thats the equivalent to taking CPA in America. However what my question is to you is would you recommend gaining experience in one of the Big 4 firms? (we are required to work three years as article clerks to become a C.A) or rather gaining experience in a small-medium sized firm if you would like to open your own business in future? which would you say is the best option? because allot of people (locally and internationally) have said that the smaller firms give more all-round experience. Not sure what to choose going forward, your insights would be helpful thank you

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    • Russell

      Russell

      Good Question David. I would recommend starting out at a Big 4 firm. I believe if you a chance to work at the Big 4, you do it. It’s so good going forward for your accounting career. If you don’t like it at the Big 4, you can always move on after 2 years to a smaller firm very easily.

      Yes, you do have to focus in audit or tax in a Big 4, but I don’t look at that as a negative. If you become a expert in either, it’s very easy to go out on your own.

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  19. tony

    hi russel,
    i want to ask you ,i am now working at crowe horwath qatar (top 10) but i don’t like the experience here but i am scared to move to big 4 and will not have time to study for the cpa and i am from middle east btw,so any advice and thanks a lot.

    Reply

  20. Raina

    Hi Russell,
    I got an offer from PWC, KPMG and EY! Can you give me some insights about working for PWC. I don’t know which company to choose.

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  21. Big 4 Sucks

    BIG 4 CONS:
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    oh yeah did i mention YOU WILL NOT HAVE A LIFE!

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    • David

      Then you should’t be a C.A. if you love what you do those long hours will be joyous. I guess some peoples perceptions are different, we don’t all have passion and drive.

      Reply

  22. Hasnat

    Hi Russell, I am ICAEW member with auditing, graduated with highest mark (Bachelor and MSc in accounting) I am enrolled for an LL.M in International business law expecting to expand my knowledge in legal sector. I am now 28, is it possible to work for big 4? thanks a lot…

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  23. Alyssa Webster

    Hi Russell,
    I really appreciate your article. I will be starting at one of the Big 4 in January and am getting nervous. I should note that I went about things a bit backwards and do not have my undergraduate in Accounting and never did an internship in Accounting, however, I have a Master’s in Accounting and Financial Management, hence my qualification for the position. Also, I got my Master’s online and did not do recruiting events to get into the firm, so I have little knowledge from interactions. I will be starting in the tax department and am prepared to work at least 6 long days a week at the beginning but any times to make this new experience easier would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.

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  24. Rachel Moore

    Hello Russell
    I am am about to obtain a masters in accounting. My undergrad is in business management. I have no accounting experience but I enjoy anything with numbers. It’s a big challenge for me. I want to work with a big 4 firm but I’m a little afraid I wont have the opportunity becuase I don’t have an accouting background. is this true? are Big 4 firms likely to hire individuals with no accounting background but posses a masters in accouting? Also, can you tell me what the pay range is for someone starting out as an accountant with a masters in accounting, I keep hearing different figures anywhere from 40,000 to 100,000.

    Thanks!

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    Hello. I am Dipti from Pune, India.
    I want to start ACCA qualification. But i am confused whether i will get job after ACCA or not specially in India. I want help from you. Waiting for your valuable response. thank you

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  40. Jasim

    Hi Russell,
    Thanks for this article. I want to ask you a quick question. I am a fresh graduate with a Finance degree, and I would like to work as an analyst or in investment banks in the future. I got offered a job in Deloitte in Audit. Will this job help me get a decent career in the field of Finance after working for Big 4 as an Auditor for a couple of years? Thank you

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  41. Vik

    Hi Russell,
    Thank you for the great insight! It is a helpful article.
    I am a 2013 accounting & finance graduate (UK degree), now I started the ACCA qualification, while working in a start up as an accountant. However, I want to get better training and career prospective, which I don’t feel I can get in the current company. I want to apply for one of the Big4. I aspire in becoming a partner, but the problem is I am not quite sure which field would help me achieve this in the best way possible: assurance, consultancy, auditor or accounting (taking into consideration I am highly interested to know how different businesses operate inside out). Would you please guide me on that?
    Thank you!

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  42. The Real Big Four

    I know this sounds negative, but group all those cons together and they can actually drive you nuts, even to the point greater than they outweigh the pros. I feel for the new hires, they really do it tough in their first few years. Especially the millennial generation who want everything fast, now, quickly. They’re going to learn the hard way it’s a long way to the top!

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  43. Anonymous

    I was wondering how hard the jump to Big 4 would be considering working from the top Mid-tier, such as McGladrey, BDO, etc.

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  44. marco lecce

    does having a CPA increase my chances to get into the Big four ?
    i’m a fourth year accounting graduate and plan to get the Cpa before landing at any job , please give me some tips , thank you

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  45. chandana

    May I know the Maximum salary package offered to a person having CA,CMA,CS Qualifications in a Big-4 firm in the very beginning.Is it possible to earn 2.5 lakh Salary package per month over there?

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  46. Sandi

    Hi Russell,
    I am an experienced professional with about 8 years in governmental / not for profit accounting. I possess an undergrad in Accounting and an MBA in Public Accounting. I am not a CPA. I now have the time to dedicate to working for a BIG four accounting firm, however I find it is much more difficult to get in as an experienced professional than as a student right out of college. My resume seems to get rejected from Big Four firms. Any recommendation on how to obtain an interview with a Big Four Firm as an experienced professional?

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  47. Janet Agrawal

    Hi Russell,

    I would like to thank you first, for sharing your experiences of working in a Big 4 Firm

    Further, I am working in a Risk Advisory role for Deloitte in India. From the very first stay, I guess, I can’t really bear with the working culture and consider myself a misfit. I come from a very vibrant work culture (Accenture) and have recently joined Deloitte & Touche LLP. Of all, I can say that people are really not interested in you, they ignore you on the projects, they don’t consider your inputs as valuable ones, they don’t ask you out on casual meetings, breathers and lunches. And, the biggest problem, you are responsible for managing your career here. I’ve been sitting idle with no projects in hand, since my hiring date. No one even approached to tell me the fact that you need to find work yourselves (My reaction was, what the heck !!!!! If they don’t have work for me, why I was hired then??). I’ve faced issues like non-inclusion and being kept passively on the team with no work to do. This doesn’t seems to get any better in the near future. A colleague of mine suggests that it is the same problem everywhere and you should focus on networking and “menial ego-massaging” with your immediate boss who can always give you a project. I’ve never been like this, really. In my previous organization, I used to have a sustained stream of work where I was more able to focus on enhancing my productivity skills and competencies. Also, I had a very vibrant and social working environment previously. Switching to a Big 4 firm came with a “culture shock” only. Even If I think of taking a switch again, my Resume may not impress many HR Executives and Managers.

    What should I do in these circumstances? What do you suggest? Should I consider sticking to this workplace for some time like 2-3 years? Or should I work on some skills, so that I might be able to find a better job and working environment outside.

    Your suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Janet A.

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  48. Nahush

    Hi Russel,
    I am CGMA (From CIMA – UK), Diploma in IFRS (ACCA – UK) and SAP Cerified FI consultant. I wish to do CPA – USA. I want to know will CPA – USA add value to me in the hiring process, salary pay and to get good paying jobs in United states or UK. Would appreciate if you post your reply on my email : nahush.deodhar@gmail.com
    Thanks in advance
    Nahush Deodhar
    Regards
    Nahush Deodhar

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  49. prince

    Is the company credit card yours too keep, & also do they pay the balance on the card ?

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  50. Mohammad

    Hi Russel,

    Can a CMA (USA) get job in big 4 in india.?

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  51. Chamila

    Hi Russell

    I’m Chamila from Sri Lanka, Now I’m working in Ernst & Young in Sri Lankan Branch, But I need to migrate to the other country’s EY after my graduation so could you tell me how can I do it because still I’m searching the ways for it.

    Reply

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